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Post by sledgehammer on Dec 22, 2006 16:58:38 GMT -5
bn1 what is the average temp over ther this time of year.
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Post by sledgehammer on Dec 22, 2006 16:59:44 GMT -5
never mind I read your weather report.
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Post by bn1 on Dec 22, 2006 17:59:48 GMT -5
dont know what the temperature is, tho it is summer here. its not as hot as some years (40 c+ isnt unknown here)
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Post by RR Redneck on Dec 22, 2006 19:30:32 GMT -5
Could someone translate that to farenhiet please?
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Post by espeefoamer on Dec 22, 2006 19:54:10 GMT -5
My favorite hotspot,where I can be found most any weekend evening,is the Fullerton,CA. Amtrak station.Besides Amtrak and Metrolink trains,there are LOTS(!) of BNSF frieghts.Most of these are doublestacks,but we also get a few manifest trains as well.Come down and check it out sometime. ;D
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Post by RR Redneck on Dec 22, 2006 19:56:55 GMT -5
Well I only railfan along the local mainline. There are general time frames that they come and during them, I can be found along the main line.
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Post by bn1 on Dec 22, 2006 20:25:18 GMT -5
Could someone translate that to farenhiet please? dont ask me, i flunked maths (like bottom of the class, i mean bottom, as in a good 30% below everyone)
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Post by RR Redneck on Dec 22, 2006 20:40:29 GMT -5
Ok.
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Post by CSXno674 on Dec 23, 2006 1:06:00 GMT -5
Now here is a long summary of Berea I wrote:
BEREA, OHIO:
BEREA IS A SMALL, SUBURBAN TOWN IN THE SOTUHWESTERN PORTION OF CLEVELAND. IT IS APPROXIAMETLY 21.9 MILES SOUTHWEST OF CENTRAL CLEVELAND BY RAILROAD. BEREA IS A MAGNET TO RAILFANS, IN AND OUTSIDE OF THIS COUNTRY, DUE TO IT’S ASTOUNDING ARRAY OF TRAINS AND ACTION AND BEING ONE OF THE ONLY SPOTS IN OHIO WHERE TO MAINLINES PARRALLEL FOR ABOUT A MILE. WITH MOST DAYS HANDLING 110 TRAINS OR MORE. AT BEREA, YOU HAVE A CLEAR SHOT OF ALL TRAINS. YOU CAN GET UP TO THE EDGE OF THE BALLAST OF THE CSX TRACKS, BUT BE WARNED NOT TO GET ON THEM OR YOU WILL SUFFER FROM PENALTIES. AND DON’T EVEN THINK ABOUT GOING IN BETWEEN THE MAINLINES. THERE IS ABOUT 300 YARDS IN BETWEEN THE MAINLINES, AND IT WOULD SEEM NS IS ALWAYS MONITORING THE AREA BETWEEN THE MAINLINES. STAY AT LEAST 15 FEET BACK FROM CSX TRAINS ON THE NEAR TRACK AS THEY ARE USUALLY DOING 60-70 MPH. OTHER THAN THIS, BEREA IS A NICE PLACE TO CHAT WITH RAILFAN FRIENDS, SHOOT TRAIN PHOTOS, AND IS A POTENTIAL PICNIC AREA. PARKING FOR THE HOTSPOT IS AT THE “STATION RESTRAUNT’S” (FORMER NYC STATION) WESTERN-MOST PARKING. HERE YOU CAN ACCESS A QUARTER-MILE-LONG STRETCH OF A GRASSY AREA (THAT USED TO BE A YARD).CSX TRAINS TRAVELING THROUGH ON TRACK ONE (THE FAST TRACK) HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO PASS THROUGH THE MILE AND A HALF AREA IN 4-7 SECONDS. RAILFANS THAT FREQUENTLY ATTEND BEREA ARE USUALLY OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND WILL GET YOU CAUGHT-UP ON THE INFROMATION AND HISTORY OF THIS AREA, AS WELL AS GIVE YOU A WELL-DESIGNED MAP AND DIAGRAM. NS TRAINS USUALLY CALL OUT THEIR ‘SYMBOL, SIGNAL POSITION AND MILE POST’ WHILE APPROACHING BEREA, SO YOU HAVE A GOOD IDEA WHEN A TRAIN IS COMING. THE ‘STATION RESTRAUNT’ IS SOMEWHAT OF A FANCY RESTRAUNT INCLUDING A BAR AND GRILLE. THEY OFFER NICE, WELL DONE MEALS, BUT NOT AT THE GREATEST AND WORTH-WHILE PRICES. BEREA IS SORT OF LIKE A RAILFAN “CLUB” ONCE YOU GET TO KNOW EVERYONE. IF YOU GET LUCKY, ED GIBBS (WHO OWNS A COMPANY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HOTSPOT, AND IS A RAILFAN, AND HAS SEEN EVERY CSX UNIT EXCEPT THE F40PH’S) WILL ALLOW YOU TO PARK IN HIS MORE SHADY AREA IN A SEMI-WOODED AREA. IN THE SUMMER YOU CAN KEEP COOLER THERE. CSX HAS A SIGNAL AT CP 22.0 WHICH IS CLEARLY VISIBLE FROM THE RAILFAN LOCATION, THAT ALWAYS STAYS LIT. THE BOTTOM LIGHT IS USUALLY RED, WHILE THE TOP SWITCHES FROM GREEN TO YELLOW TO RED. OTHER THAN THAT, THE REST OF BEREA’S SUMMARY IS TO BE VIEWED BELOW THROUGH THE RAILROAD’S POINT-OF-VIEW.
NORFOLK SOUTHERN’S VIEW OF BEREA: NORFOLK SOUTHERN’S TRACKAGE IN THIS TOWN IS DOUBLED FROM WHAT IT USED TO BE, BECAUSE OF THE NS “ROCKPORT YARD” THAT IS FOUR MILES WEST WAS GAINED IN THE “CONRAIL SPLIT” IN 1999. BEFORE THE CONRAIL SPLIT, THIS YARD WAS OWNED BY CONRAIL, BUT UNFORTUNATELY NO TRACKS CONNECTED THE CONRAIL LINE TO IT. ALL OF NS’S TRAINS RUNNING IN OR OUT ARE USUALLY TAKING “ROCKPORT SIDING” WHICH EXTENDS FOUR MILES WEST OF THE YARD TO BEREA. NS TRACK SPEED ON THE SIDING IS ONLY 15 MPH, AND USUALLY, TRAINS WILL HAVE TO STOP AT BEREA HEADED WEST DUE TO ONCOMING TRAINS OCCUPYING THE LINE FURTHER UP THE TRACK IN WHICH THE TRAIN COMING OUT OF THE YARD WANTS TO GET ON. NS TRACK SPEED ON THE MAINLINE IS 40 MPH, AND 45 MPH FOR HOTSHOT MAIL TRAINS. THE LINE NORFOLK SOUTHERN OPERATES ON IS THE FORMER NEW YORK CENTRAL MAINLINE THAT RUNS FROM BUFFALO, NY TO CHICAGO, IL. NS TRAINS AT “ROCKPORT YARD” NEVER TAKE THE WYE TO HEAD EAST OUT OF THE YARD. THE REASON IS STRANGELY INDEFINATE, BUT THE TRACK HAS A “DERAILER” AND “LOCK” ON IT. AND A COAT OF RUST HAS FORMED ON TOP OF IT. NS RUNS ONE DAILY TRAIN IN THIS AREA, SYMBOLED NS 133. IT IS A “REQUEST” TRAIN THAT ONLY RUNS FIFTEEN MILES, THEN RETURNS THE SAME DAY AS NS 132. NORFOLK SOUTHERN IS QUITE THE ORGANIZED RAILROAD IN THIS AREA, AND, THEY OWN 70% OF THE LAND IN BETWEEN THE MAINLINES AT BEREA!
CSX TRANSPORTATION’S VIEW OF BEREA: CSX HAD A MORE SOPHISTICATED AND EXPENSIVE DEAL THAT HAD TO BE DONE IN BEREA RIGHT BEFORE THEY FIRST MOVED IN THERE IN 1999. THEY HAD MANY FUTURE TRAINS ROUTED ON THAT LINE, ABOUT 60, AND ONLY ONE TRACK. SO IN 1996-1998, THEY HIRED CONRAIL TO DOUBLE-TRACK THE MAIN FROM GREENWICH TO BROOKLYN, OH. THEY ALSO PAID CONRAIL TO INSTALL A DOUBLE TRACK CONNECTING WYE AND A SINGLE TRACK SOUTHEASTERN WYE AT GREENWICH TO MAKE FOR MORE FLUXUENT TRAIN MOVEMENT IN THAT TOWN. ON THIS NEW PIECE OF RAIL, EXTENDING 54 MILES, CSX ALLOWED HIGH-SPEED, 50-70 MPH TRAINS. IN BEREA, CSX MAIL TRAINS, HEADED EAST, ARE OFTEN TRAVELING AT 60-70 MPH. THE ORIGINAL TRACK’S SPEED IS A LOW 40-55 MPH, FOR THE ENTIRE 54 MILE PERIOD. CSX IN 2003, INSTALLED A OVERPASS AT BAGLEY ROAD (ONE OF THE WORST CROSSINGS IN OHIO AT THE TIME) AND WHILE WORKING ON THAT, THEY INSTALLED A ½ MILE LONG JOG AROUND A 20 FOOT TALL “EARTHEN MOUND” MADE UP OF SOLID DIRT. RAILFANS DREAD THE CITIZENS OF BEREA LIVING ON “LINDBERGH AVENUE.” THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MADE THE EARTHEN MOUND EXIST. THEY COMPLAINED THAT THEY DIDN’T WANT TO BE IN THEIR BACKYARDS AND HAVE 70 MPH MAIL TRAINS BLAST THROUGH. NOW, A 30-40 SECOND PERIOD IS ENCOMPASSED WHILE THE TRAINS, EVEN 60-70 MPH ONES, JOG AROUND THE EARTHEN MOUND.
WHEELING & LAKE ERIE’S VIEW OF BEREA: IT WASN’T UNTIL 2004, THAT WLE BEGAN OPERATIONS IN BEREA. THEY GOT ONTO OF OFF OF CSX TRACKS AT WELLINGTON’S “FAIR GROUND LOOP” TRACK, WHICH IS ABOUT 20-SOME MILES WEST OF BEREA ON CSX. THEY WOULD TAKE THE “BIG FOUR CONNECTION” AT BEREA. (BIG FOUR CONNECTION IS ONE OF TWO CONNECTIONS CONNECTING THE MAINS AT BEREA).WLE RUNS A DAILY COKE TRAIN FROM OR TO WELLINGTON FROM OR TO CENTRAL CLEVELAND. THERE 26 MILE JOURNEY ON CSX WAS HAVOC THOUGH DUE TO THEIR TYING-UP CSX INTERMODALS AND MANIFESTS FOR A UNKNOWN AMOUNT OF TIME. AND WLE ONLY TRAVELED AT 20-30 MPH. FORTUNATELY, WLE ONLY RUNS ON NS TRACKAGE FOR FOUR MILES, WHERE IT WILL VEAR-OFF INTO THE ROCKPORT YARD.
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Post by UP Patcher on Dec 23, 2006 7:09:00 GMT -5
That's brief? What the full description like? Or do I really want to know?
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Post by RR Redneck on Dec 23, 2006 11:09:05 GMT -5
Oh boy. (Turns around to contruction crew, "Break out the two parter"!)
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Post by CSXno674 on Dec 23, 2006 12:35:31 GMT -5
That's brief? What the full description like? Or do I really want to know? Note that I wrote above that it IS the long summary.
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Post by RR Redneck on Dec 23, 2006 13:17:42 GMT -5
No offense Richard, but do you know of any good locations west of the Mississippi?
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Post by CSXno674 on Dec 23, 2006 13:44:57 GMT -5
Yes, Tehachapi Loop, Cajon Pass and there are a couple of other ones with those types of names, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. I heard Seattle, WA was a good place. There aren't as many out in the west though, no offense, though they have alot better scenery then the ones I've been mentioning.
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Post by TrainboySD40-2 on Dec 23, 2006 14:53:43 GMT -5
There are SO many good locations west of the Mississippi! I couldn't possibly list them all....and as a photographer, I was about to say that almost any location can be good if you know how to make use of it, but then I realised you're probably not talking about some quasi-scenic midwest branchline with a train a week. And also, 40c is approx. = 100f. 0c = 30f, and -40c = -40f. That should give you conversion rates that are about correct...
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